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工作学习 / IT技术讨论 / Jabber,I want to discuss with you much more. -guest:Sab; 2000-10-12 {647} (#10559@0)
Thanks for your good ideas.
As for making living , Any job is Ok especially
for a new immigrant. The key problem is what kind of background is much more convincing. From my heart, I like to be programmer. I don;t know what age you think
it is too old for a person to be a programmer.
I am 32. Is it too old? :)
If you don't mind, would you tell me how old
you begin your experience of JAVA coding?
Tell me something about your first JAVA job,OK? How can you convince the emplyor
you are the right person for that job?
I know skill for job hunting is quite important,
I wnat to learn more.
Hope I am not too nosy to get you bored.

Sab, you are more than welcome -jabber(jabber); 2000-10-12 {1672} (#10562@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛In comparison to me, you are still young. One thing we should keep in mind: We will be aged. Once we are aged, it will be more diffcult ofr us to be a programmer. I know a lot of things about Java, and I have been learning Java... I have little time to share with my family members.... I don't think this is the life. For me, there are two ways out: 1) To be an architect ( I think I am qualified); 2) To be full-time Java instructor. I don't think it is a good idea for me to be a Java programmer for a long time. In some sense, programmers are generic labors in the IT industry.

Yes, some people like coding. Maybe you belong to this group. For a programmer, he needs to learn, learn, learn... It is chalenging as you are getting old.

Of course, we don't have many choices because we are new in Canada. The future is not always ours to see. So let us grasp the present and keep the future in the mind.

My first Java job is to assist an Chief Archiect and develop a networking model. This lends me a lot of room to get rooted in IT industry.
In this model, I used SERVLET, EJB and XML
technologies. During the first two weeks, I was so nervous----I don't know what is ERP,
waht is CRM, what is share drive, how to write C shell scripting, .... However, I survived because I want to survive. I am sort of person who know how to make use of the environment. For instance, my present project is techinacally disappointing but I don't feel bored because I think I can befinite from its System architect and DB model.

Even you like coding so much, you still need try to become a manager...

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Right. It is always not late to study. -canada(canada); 2000-10-12 {385} (#10565@0)
Today, I heard that almost all chinese people who are looking for jobs have the resume indicating that they are an experienced java programmer. They became programmer after they left China. The companies don't know how to distinguish who are the real programmer. So, I think we should improve our ability first, then make up the resume. Otherwise, we will damage our reputation in IT.

Canada, will you be a java programmer soon? -jabber(jabber); 2000-10-13 {899} (#10663@0)
Your statement is not a rumour. Some people live under great financial pressure.
They have to try every way to get a job. Some people like Java programmer's high pay but they have no patience to sit down reading Java books. In addition, some company training centers are producing Java programmers in a very fast pace. I think
this phenomenon will cease once Java is no longer hot.

I think it is not a good idea to pretend a Java programmer. However, I think it is Ok to do some decorative things in our resume.

Here is a story I heard in Toronto. One manager in a small company received 5 resumes from Chinese guys. These resumes are so silimar to each other that
he he became suspicious. He decided to interview 5 candidates and hire the best one
he think. However, he fired the lucky guy after one day.. The reason is that this guy did not know what he claimed to know.

Really? -guest:quit; 2000-10-13 {33} (#10665@0)
What do think about that company?

This is a materialist society. I can understand why that manager fire the lucky guy. Actually, I won't be surprised if I am fired tomorrow morning. But I have enough confidence in getting a new job. -jabber(jabber); 2000-10-13 (#10680@0)

Yes, I hope I will be a good programmer soon. And I won't lie to be a programmer. Could you please give me some advice according to that we talked on phone? -canada(canada); 2000-10-14 (#10800@0)

Please consult with "old immigrants" around you first... and see how they succeeded and how they failed -jabber(jabber); 2000-10-15 (#10849@0)

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