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  • 枫下拾英 / 乐韵书香 / 对,应该贴在这里。要买就应该买不至于太后悔的。Fender 不是最好的牌子,不过已经够了,又不是靠她吃饭?如果真是很发烧我就直奔 Martin 去了。不知道你听说过国内的“月光”牌?以前我弹那个,号称手工制作,不怎么样。
    • 月光?
      那是北京一个好像叫余清平还是什么的人开创的牌子吧? 他自己琴弹的不错, 见过. 但是这个手工琴实在是不怎么样. 最怕音不准, 现在耳朵比较灵. 没法. 在国内卖2000一下的琴都是这样. Fender已经很不错了, 就别嫌弃啦 :-) 其他如Ibanez(不知道拼错了没有), Gibson, Yamaha你没有考虑过?

      我第一次弹Ibanez的bass的时候, 大吃一惊, 靠, 还有一个突起可以把右手拇指很舒服的放在上面, 这帮人脑子太管用了.
      • 不过他们贵的琴还是不错的..连材料都是进口的
        • 也许吧。
          那时候上高中,哪有钱买好琴。买那把月光的钱都不知道是从哪儿捡的呢。对 Yamaha 不太感冒,而且口碑也不太好。
      • 电的已经有一把(Cort,一般般),Ibanez 就算了吧。价格其实说得过去了。Gibson ,哈哈,你是想把我推进火坑啊!劳斯莱斯咱可开不起。在国内这牌子就没有下15000 的吧?这边价格也是太高,太脱离群众了,:D
        • 我在国内有本Gibson的目录手册, 经常看, 解馋
          • 哈哈,同感。那时候拿几页 Ibanez 的产品广告看着就流口水,需要用脸盆接着才行,否则楼下就淹了。
        • 你用什么效果器?
          • Zoom 505,那种多种效果集成的踏板。你用的什么?不会是 Yamaha 的吧?哈哈
            • k!你还真玩得高档呀! BOSS得东东.这里买的? 多少钱? 呵呵, 我现在没有啦. 现在弄木的, classical的. 20多岁的时候省吃俭用买了3块踏板, 都是台湾的, 400多一块, 心疼得...失真,合唱, heavy metal, 后来卖掉了..hoho,
              • 忘了多少钱了,在欧洲买的。这东西性能价格比高啊。不过我的音箱不好。还是你比较狠,上学的时候我可买不起效果器。那时候买的烂音箱有时候居然能冒出收音机的声音,你说是不是见鬼?
                • 嘿嘿, 我听说这个东东的失真比较烂呀...707好像好点...505人民币可能要1500以上吧. 上学?
                  上学的时候我主要弹bass, 省钱. 效果器都是炒更时用的, 后来年纪大了, 又摇又滚玩不动了, 才割爱了.
                  • 刚才出去了,才回来。我没有用过其他效果器,不好评价。不过感觉还过得去,反正声音能把街坊四邻都给震出来。年纪大了,所以又想回到木吉他上了。
                    • 好! 现在是主题:
                      你弹的怎么样? 有空切磋一下?

                      比较牛的solo你都能弹哪些?
                      • 哈哈,说正题啊?
                        我没怎么好好弹过,古典的曲子弹得比较好的是象阳光普照之类的曲子,现在也忘了。电的也没有什么拿手的 solo,你怎么样?有什么好的谱子吗?
                        • hoho
                          我古典的还行, 年轻时可以到魔笛或grand solo这一类. 现在想都不敢想, 中级的一些曲子还可以弹弹, 也1年多没摸了.

                          民谣的可以勉强把unplugged版的hotel california前奏糊弄完. 结尾的solo还没空练...

                          其他的杂七杂八, 反正要弄的时候再扒带...

                          看来你太谦虚, 有空真切磋一下
                          • 非也,非也,不是谦虚。我知道自己的水平。我属于有心摘花无心戴那种。更喜欢器材,就象我对待摄影一样。
                            • 好, 有空切磋一下.
                              • 摄影还是吉他啊?如果是吉他,看来这几天要赶紧练练了。哈哈。
                                • 吉他, 你就练吧, 呵呵.... 其实我很久没弹了...
                                  • 你最近真要买琴?推荐你一个网站,http://www.music123.com 那里的吉他是最便宜的。我就准备从那儿买。
                                    • 是不错, 可是要官税. 靠. 你的505才 69! 国内要1000多, k!
                                      • 哈哈,就是啊,69 还是二代的。逼急了我就上 Martin DM,在那儿卖 500 多,实在是超值!!!
                                        • 你就买一个吧, 咱们也好来观摩一下 :-)
                          • Never thought Expertune is/was a classical guitar fan ...
                            I used to play a lot in senior high school. I was able to play a lot of famous piece at that time, but now I can't even finish even a very simple one. At that time sheet music was the hardest to find.

                            Anyway, I collected a lot of classical guitar mp3's more than a year ago when napster was still usable. If you want I can share with you.
                            • That would be great!thank you!could you pls set up a ftp site?:-)是的,那个时候谱子太难找,有些人还藏着不给.靠! 我收集了很多,复印了很多,包括一些效果其差的录音带,这次过来前才忍痛扔了,有的都不能放了.怎么样?咱们也切磋一下?
                              • No problem. Well the only problem is you are in Toronto and I'm in Vancouver. I'll setup a web site instead of ftp (I don't really like ftp), and probably a streaming server if I have time.
                                • Oh :-( well, I wish you will make it soon. :-) In fact, I also collected some mp3, and MIDI.
                              • 我在国内有几本很不错的古典谱子,以后找机会带过来。
                                • 我也有一大堆, 太沉
                                • Actually, I can find most of them, but the only problem is they are in tab format (to aviod copyright infringement?).
                                  • 这种tab的看起来头大! 如果是guitarpro的就好了
                                    • Me too! But at least they are there if you can't find sheet music for a particular one.
                              • You know what, after I came here, I found the exact CDs that I used to have on tape that got copied over and over -- how sweet! Among them is a duet elbum by John Williams and Julian Bream.
                                Also, in the first year after I came here (some time in early 97), Parkening held a concert in UBC. It was really a pitty that at that time, I didn't have a job and have no money, no car to go to the concert.
                                • 呵呵, 我每次有机会出国就买CD, 奇怪, 这种classic的CD很便宜, 甚至在奥地利Virgin公司买到Segovia很早期, 都是单声道的唱片转录的CD. 现在我已经hold了所有多伦多图书馆里面的古典CD, 全部拷贝.哈哈哈.
                                  Parkening 应该也40多了吧? :-)
                                  • Cool! I should've thought of that ...
    • 佩服呀,赫赫。
    • 可能我弄错了, 我记得的好像是阳光. 月光是陈志弄的吧?
      • 不知道是谁弄的,反正那阵子除了凤凰,红棉(这两家做的东西不知道能不能叫做乐器,反正我受不了)以外,能买到的手工制作的琴只有月光了,不便宜。做工也不错,就是不耐用。阳光什么的好象是后来出来的吧?
        • 对, 月光不错, 有一次什么大赛还用他们的琴作奖品. 怎么会不耐用? 您老手脚并用? :-) 原来有幸弹过人家的日本和台湾的手工琴, 那简直...唉.
          特别是有一把台湾琴, 面板上全部是树疙瘩, 按理这样的板子怎么能作琴? 但是有个台湾的疯子居然就作了一把出来, 音色还很好...
          • 我也不知道,
            可能是我赶上一把质量差的吧。琴颈后来弯了。生气中想拿去做劈柴烧了,被告之有油漆燃烧污染环境,就算了。
      • 月光 was the brand made by Wei Ke more than 15 years ago, not by Chen Zhi. I think it was still available about 10 years ago before I lost contact with Wei Ke.
        But I don't know what happened to 月光 -- it seems that Wei Ke transfered to brand to some other guy.
        • 对, 现在好像已经不生产了. 你是说伟志? 李质伟?
          • No, his real name is Wei4 Ke4 Cheng2 (sorry no Chinese input at work). I don't think many people know him, but those playing classical guitar know him very well.
            The guitar he made -- 月光 brand -- was the best classical guitar made by mainland Chinese at that time, in my opinion.
            • 呵呵, 我没有听说过..孤陋寡闻了. :-) 对制作没怎么关心. 那时就知道弹来着. 刚开始用一把红棉003, 后来就换了把台湾的
              • Like I said, a lot of people didn't know him. But at that time, he assembled a sheet music called "the 10 famous piece for classical guitar" or something.
                I knew him just because I was lucky enough to be his student :-)
                • 不错. 他是哪个省的?
                  • He was from Beijing. At that time he was about the same age as I am now.
                    Because of him, I was able to go to concerts by some foreign guitarest invited at that time. One of them is Chris Ashby (maybe you never heard of him), and a cuban guy also played very good.
                    • hehe, I know Ashby, I have his three books (not formally, but published by cheng zhi) right? He is a Doctor. :-) and a big guy whose name is 居梅. right? hehe... I was a crazy fan at that time.
                      • Shake hands! So nice to find a hardcore fan! You got 3 book? I only got 2 ... Anyway, I think the estudio from Segovia one is extremely good.
                        BTW, did you go to the course held by Ashby? I did a performance on the last day with another guy ...
                        • no, I had no chance. :-) 他指点一下进步蛮大吧?
                          唯一能够值得回忆一点的是曾经给一个叫叶 登 民的台湾人, (好像几届东京大赛都拿过奖, 最近几年在国内演出较多.) D大调协奏曲
                          • No I wasn't among those who received his instruction. But it did help a lot from listening to others being instructed. The last day was a special day that players from China got a chance to perform.
                          • I remember that I attended the course by escaping classes in the afternoon. And that was in the 3rd year in my senior high!
                            • :-)
                      • I was a crazy fan too -- hard to find one day that I didn't touch guitar in all of my senior high school years ...
    • 嘿,斑竹,这么热的帖子还不送进热点? :p
      • hohohoho, 英雄所见略同! :o)))
      • 还是进热点好,那么一大片看着的确不舒服。
        • 关键是象俺这种土人看不懂二位大师的黑话 :P, 俺的笔记本又没有外接鼠标。。。
          • 嘿嘿,讽刺,讽刺。我们没讲半句黑话啊。上 rolia 没有属标的确是种痛苦,赶快装一个吧。最好是中间带滚动球的那种,我怀疑是专门为 roliaer 设计的,:D
            • sorry sorry, 不是“黑话”是“行话”= “内行人说的话”,俺是外行,不懂。另外,明天我就有外界鼠标用啦,爽!!